Talk:Vampire/@comment-202.154.138.189-20101023215152/@comment-69.107.89.62-20101102223513

Well, the shape-shifters gang up on vampires as a method of diversion - whether that speaks for or against their strength is open to individual perception. And it is hinted in Breaking Dawn that werewolves do not form packs with set ranks and rules. That, and of course the werewolves do need the full moonlight to change, whereas the shape-shifters change at will (or during fits of uncontrollable anger).