Talk:Shape-shifters vs. vampires/@comment-174.84.253.176-20130614022944/@comment-94.7.9.239-20160410222836

It's fine to like shape shifters but you're going ott. If you look at the shape shifters wiki it states they are "ALMOST as strong as vampires" I think they're usually faster as they have four legs to run on but they very rarely win a one to one fight with a vampire. The cold man killed several shapeshifter and it took two to finally kill him. It states that the cold woman was not the warrior her mate was yet still killed one wolf and would have done the same ("the third wife could see that he would loose...") until distracted by blood. There was, during breaking dawn a whole pack of shape shifters yet three vampires and though loosing towards the end of the fight put up and excellent struggle. And then when Carlisle, Esme and Emmett returned and joined the fight they were evenly matched despite the vampires still being outnumbered. He only vamp vs wolf exception is when Riley fought Seth. However, seth was a talented wolf and Riley was not only surprise attacked by she but was unaware of what he was. He also injured Seth durning the fight despite be an out of control newborn.