User blog:VampiresAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23/Testimony Of Joesph Bruce Ismay (Part Three)

Part Three

Mr. ISMAY.  The officer who was there will be able to give you that information, sir. My own statement would be simply guesswork. His statement would be reliable.

Senator SMITH.  In the |boat  in which you left the ship how many men were on board?

Mr. ISMAY.  Four.

Senator SMITH.  Besides yourself?

Mr. ISMAY.  I thought you meant the crew.

Senator SMITH.  I did mean the crew.

Mr. ISMAY.  There were four of the crew.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What position did these men occupy?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I do not know, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Were any of them officers?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Or seamen?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I believe one was a quartermaster. [ <span style="font-size: 9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">George Thomas Rowe<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">]

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> One was a quartermaster?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I believe so, but I do not know.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> You saw three of the boats lowered yourself?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And three of them loaded?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> As they were loaded, was any order given as to how they should be loaded?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How did it happen that the women were first put aboard these lifeboats?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The natural order would be women and children first.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Was that the order?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Oh, yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That was followed?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> As far as practicable.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> So far as you observed?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> So far as I observed.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And were all the women and children accommodated in these lifeboats?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I could not tell you, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How many passengers were in the lifeboat in which you left the ship?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I should think about 45.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Forty-five?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That is my recollection.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Was that its full capacity?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Practically.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How about the other two boats?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The other three, I should think, were fairly loaded up.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The three besides the one you were in?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> They were fairly well filled?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Was there any struggle or jostling?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I saw none.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Or any attempt by men to get into the boats?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I saw none.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Were these women passengers designated as they went into the lifeboat?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Those that were nearest the lifeboat were taken in?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> We simply picked the women out and put them in the boat as fast as we could.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> You picked them from among the throng?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> We took the first ones that were there and put them in the lifeboats. I was there myself and put a lot in.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> You helped put some of them in yourself?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I put a great many in.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Were children shown the same consideration as the women?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Absolutely.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did you see any lifeboat without its complement of oarsmen?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I did not.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did you see the first lifeboat lowered?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That I could not answer, sir. I saw the first lifeboat lowered on the starboard side. What was going on on the port side I have no knowledge of.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> It has been intimated, Mr. Ismay, that the first |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">lifeboat <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> did not contain the necessary number of men to man it.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> As to that I have no knowledge, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And that women were obliged to row the boat.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. HUGHES. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That is the second lifeboat, Senator.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The second lifeboat; and that women were obliged to row that boat from 10:30 o'clock at night until 7:30 o'clock the next morning.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The accident did not take place until 11 -

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Well, from after 11:30 o'clock at night until between 6 and 7 o'clock the next morning.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Of that I have no knowledge.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Until the Carpathia<span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif""> overtook them. You have no knowledge of that?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Absolutely none, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> So far as your observation went, would you say that was not so?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I would not say either yes or no; but I did not see it.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> When you first went on to the deck, you were only partially clothed?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That is all, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And, as I understand, you went as far as to encounter an officer or steward?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And then returned?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That is right.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How long were you on the ship after the collision occurred?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That is a very difficult question to answer, sir. Practically until the time - almost until she sank.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How long did it take to lower and load a lifeboat?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I could not answer that.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Can you approximate it?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> It is not possible for me to judge the time. I could not answer that.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Were you on the Titanic<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> an hour after the collision?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Oh, yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How much longer?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I should think it was an hour and a quarter.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> An hour and a quarter?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I should think that was it; perhaps longer.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did you, during this time, see any of the passengers that you knew?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I really do not remember; I saw a great many passengers, but I do not think I paid much very attention to who they were. I do not remember recognizing any of them.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did you know <span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Charles M. Hayes<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did you know of the presence of other Americans and Canadians of prominence?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir; I knew Mr. Hayes was on board the ship.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> You knew he was on the ship?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes; I have known him for some years.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> But you did not see him after the accident occurred?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I never saw him after the accident; no.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And he is unaccounted for?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> He was not among the saved?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What were the circumstances, Mr. Ismay, of your departure from the ship?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> In what way?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did the last |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">boat <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> that you went on leave the ship from some point near where you were?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I was immediately opposite the lifeboat when she left.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Immediately opposite?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What were the circumstances of your departure from the ship? I ask merely that -

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The boat was there. There was a certain number of men in the boat, and the officer called out asking if there were any more women, and there was no response, and there were no passengers left on the <span style="font-size: 9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">deck<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> There were no passengers on the deck?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir; and as the boat was in the act of being lowered away, I got into it.

To be Continued.......