User talk:TagAlongPam/Archive 11

Black family page
Sorry to bother you - the Black family page needs a bit of a workover Charmed-Jay's has been at it with his copy and paste technique. MinorStoop  22:03, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ateara family
It's just that the verb tense (is/was) changes with no reason I can see - "still are" is a tad uninformative. MinorStoop  00:07, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, my idea is that you refer to (likely to be) living people in the present and to (likely to be) dead ones in the past tense - guess I have it wrong. However, why should Quil Ateara I be referred to in the past, when noone can be the former father of someone else, when Ohle Akiha is referred to in the present, when he's supposedly an older ancestor of the Atearas?
 * MinorStoop  08:34, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * The relationship does not change, no - just the eldest that is no longer around. "My grandfather lived in the first half of last century." if this example shows what I mean. MinorStoop  13:41, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll give the pages another checkover. :) MinorStoop  18:32, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Question
Does the mediawiki collection | The Vampires of Twilight mean anything? It's an old, partial list, superseded by the category tree as it is now - I'd suggest to remove it. MinorStoop  18:03, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. MinorStoop  08:17, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Archiving
Hope you don't get upset if I do it for you. MinorStoop  08:19, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Block
Korshandbags needs a block, if you don't mind. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  11:42, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Family pages
Is Paul Lahote not included in the Quileute genealogies due to his uncertain status, pretty much like Kevin Littlesea with too little information to fit in somewhere?

Since Sue Clearwater is née Uley, shouldn't she be moved to the Uley genealogy - leaving her children in the Clearwater family?

I'd say yes and no, but I wanted to check. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  15:53, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, actually Paul Lahote's genealogy is just short on details, but not uncertain - a Gene Lahote is identified as his grandrather. Didn't notice the entry.
 * I accepted your suggestion about Sue, so that's done. Thanks! <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  06:31, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Another block
CaiusV2056 may be in need of blocking - a bit more than three days, perhaps. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  20:16, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * There _was_ a reason why I did not want to become an admin! Thanks. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  06:32, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Correction, he's been uploading those pictures for use in a couple of pages of his own - a "Ralph Geolomin" (a copy of which he created yesterday) and, now, an "Advanced mindpower". I tagged everything for deletion; refer to the deletion log, should CJ beat you on the punch. Since I remember Caius for a few wild edits especially on his namesake's page, I formally propose a block. I know you'll use your own judgement (correctly), but I propose a couple of weeks anyway. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  07:42, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I keep forgetting that admins can move pages to blogs - if TT does not beat you to it, please move Caius' last two pages to blogs. I'm canceling the block request. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  20:51, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'm not completely sure what I'm going to write him, but I'll leave him an explanation. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  07:42, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hello.
So I was wondering if you've seen Breaking Dawn - Part 2 yet, and if so, what did you think? Sorry this is so random, I was just thinking of The Office and was like, "...Oh my God. Pam. I think she saw the movie." :p <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   14:21, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh my goodness, you have to see it. It was actually pretty good, in my opinion, and not just because it's a Twilight movie. It was sooo good. If you took away my obvious preference to New Moon above everything else, it would be my favorite movie. Bill ended the series the right way. It was so stunning visually. Like... like... food for your eyes. :o It was weirdly paced, but it just gets better and better every time I see it. I think you're going to like it a lot. <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   03:27, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * It slayed my existence. I can't wait for you to see it. And thanks. I was kinda confused about the entire thing. Story of my life... <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   04:30, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's no more surprising than a frequent contributor who failed to read two books of the series and part of a third. But I'll add my recommendation to TT's - I thought it was the best movie of the Saga. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  07:42, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Didiyme as a book-only character.
You'll have noticed that CJ and I have a bit of disagreement over whether Didyme should be considered a book-only character. She's a mentioned character and I failed to notice anything on her page indicating she appeared in one of the movies. Since there are a few other mentioned characters Jay also labeled as book only, I wonder how to react. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  08:34, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Come to think about it, while "Film-only character" may have some justification, does "Book-only character" have any meaning, so to keep it or remove it? Thanks. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  09:12, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Problem solved. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  16:12, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, removed the link from pages, it only remains to kill the category, whichever admin comes first.
 * How about the relationship link in the following message? Thanks. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  03:06, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Do we keep the Relationships page? I remember an edit of yours stating not to use this template to link to it because it has little or no relation to the actual content of the "Relationship" paragraph on pages, so, do we keep the template in pages or do we remove it altogether? <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  16:12, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  10:26, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Fanon and deletion candidates
In the past few weeks there have been more fanon pages created than in the couple of years before - I wonder if we should start moving them to blogs and wait for the idea to catch on. It's probably wiser to roll with the flow (or whatever the saying is), since I get tireder in issuing unheeded warnings than it is worth and asking you and TT for blocks.

Since there is this Penny Launte page among the Candidates for deletion (if CJ hasn't already deleted it), I wonder if you could also deal with an unused picture of wolf-Brady, and a couple of top ten lists.

Thanks, <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  22:26, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Request
If you don't mind, please full-block the creation of three pages: Ralph Geolomin (deleted), Ralph, and Advanced mindpower (to be deleted, if someone hasn't already done so). They've been repeatedly created by an user under the names of CaiusV2056 and RalphGV, multiple warnings notwithstanding.

I've been thinking about it for a while, and I probably should request adminship on a more permanent basis - if you feel like awarding it. I'm doing most of the maintenance anyway, and unauthorized pages and such are becoming more and more relevant. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  16:51, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And Happy New Year, since it's less than 2 hours from now, here. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  21:06, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Fanon
First: I tried to move that "Werewolf Hybrid" page by Coonmd to a blog of her/his. It did not appear in his blog index, so I deleted the page to solve the resulting mess. Is there something I should know about moving pages to blogs?

Second: I'd expect that attempts to add fanon to the wiki will only increase. What do we do? One possibility is to redirect any attempter to the fanon wiki, another to move everything to blogs. It does not look to me that nastily banning all fanon here will work.

Thanks, <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  14:24, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. I'll remember. :) <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  21:36, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Managed to do it, finally. Thanks! <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  22:04, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

RalphGV's block
I've blocked User RalphGV for a year on account of his uploading a number of videos, many of them bootlegged and/or blocked/removed from Youtube on grounds of copyright infringement - you can check them out on my deletion log. I've left unblocked, this guy's other account, CaiusV2056.

Remembering Cullen's Are Hot story, I'll ask for your opinion. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  08:13, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I haven't. Partly because I gave him a number of warnings about other things before. However, I left an explanation for the block on his talk page. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  12:30, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Done - his block is now a week long. Hope I'll learn to do this kind of things before I cause excessive harm to someone. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  06:43, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Away
This is to let you know I'm away for two weeks starting next Friday. Hope to find the wiki in good health when I'm back. :) <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  19:39, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Admin dashboard
Oh wow, I'm dumb for that one. Thanks. <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   00:50, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia Alliances
Hello TagAlongPam!

First off, thanks for participating in the Wikia Wide Fantasy Fellowship! We're bringing that web ring to a close, as you may have noticed. However, the event was such a success that we want to launch another opportunity to tie wiki communities closer together and promote all your wonderful content!

There are actually three alliances to choose from: Fantasy, Sci-Fi, and Heroes! All are broadly defined, so your wiki may fit. Check out the Alliance Page for more details and fill out the Choose Your Alliance Page to sign up!

Best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 00:46, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Locations
Was wondering - do we really need the non-Forks locations on the wiki? Except Denali (which is near enough to Forks) and, perhaps, Volterra/Montepulciano (as a seat for the Volturi) they're not that relevant; Biloxi is way in Alice's past, Renée is quite minor a character, and so on. It would make more sense to replace them with links to wikipedia. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  19:26, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Extras
CJ has his back covered on extras - they appear credited on IMDB at least. Joe did not. I think that if/when there are enough of them we can merge them in one page, Quileute genealogies-like. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  05:57, February 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * On a second thought, should we merge all the minor actors anyway? <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  08:13, February 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll go for it. Have no idea how multiple infoboxes will be rendered on pages, so I don't think I'll keep them. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  12:34, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

When finished slogging through extras, we'll have also to dispose of crew, since they too are mostly stubs. Meanwhile, I'm unsure about José Zúñiga: comedic as Mr. Molina is, he may have enough screen time to warrant his own page; and Byron Chief-Moon, playing Taha Aki, who likely has not. Any suggestion? Thanks! <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  06:16, February 16, 2013 (UTC) P.S. Let's also add Swo-wo Gabriel to this - his page is no stub, but his screen time is few seconds...
 * Zuniga and a few others probably need a page of their own - Jay was already leaning on this direction. I'll likely follow. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  10:01, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Well, somewhat arbitrarily I've decided to follow Jay's lead for the actors whose characters were involved into the Renesmee crisis. Likely a number of people present in the minor actors list can be moved to their own page, but somebody else can either do it or ask me to. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  14:57, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Request
Hi, i'm a huge Twi-Hard and i was wonderinf if i could become an admin??

Achievement Awards page
Since these awards are obsolete, do we keep the page? <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  14:56, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  04:31, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Admin rights
So please if you must please can you make me a an admin on here and you can mentor me if you want, I am a chat moderator, I will try my hardest to be the best admin I can, you can mentor me like I said above. So please, I have smartened up on here, I really want it. Please Please Please!!!! I admit in the past, I was NOT a good user, but I have changed a lot since then. Please!!!!


 * Ok, but you will notify me when there is an opening for an admin on here and I could be someones apprentice if there was an opening. Thanks for the feedback Pam, and do you know how to get to the chat thing on here?

Chat
Should have told you, but didn't get around to do it - I disabled the chat feature for non use a while ago for non-use, then I reenabled this morning when Vampire-etc. requested it. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="blue">MinorStoop  21:36, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re:vacation
Enjoy yourself - I expect the wiki to be still around when you're back. :) <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="white">MinorStoop  01:20, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

User Problem
I have a little problem with the user Symph risley, because he added picuters on the Gallery:Bella Swan, Edward Cullen, and Jacob Black which don't belong to them. Aswell the user added different pictures on the page Kristen Stewart. MrsLunchBox (talk) 12:32, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Achievement Awards
Is there a way to get the achievement awards. MrsLunchBox (talk) 11:09, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Power Infobox
Hey, I wanted to know can you "un-delete" the power infobox? I fixed it up... but due to it being deleted previously MinorStoop had to delete it.

So.....

16:19, March 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Should have brought it up myself, but, truth to tell, I deleted the power infobox because I didn't see any reason for it to exist - then I saw you deleted an earlier version for it. Since I'm curious to hear your opinion too, I referred Chrys to you. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  17:20, March 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it's just, I don't like how the pictures stand in for how the power looks, and I think the template has value. Please give it a chance guys.
 * 17:23, March 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * THANKS SO MUCH PAM!! But Stoop, you'll have to redo every single edit before I start adding them to the pages!


 * 01:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Fine with me. :) <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  03:51, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox
I asked Charmed-Jay would you admins mind if I fixed the Character infobox, so that it can have both gifs and pictures? I think it would give this wikia a cool twist. And can you please conside changing the background? And I can fix the templates to blend with the background?

18:09, March 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Minor Stoop and Charmed-Jay think the infoboxes I made were over-the-top, do you think so too? I just wanted to add some jazz to the Wiki since the movies and books ended.


 * 18:33, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Background
Have you seen this?:
 * User_blog:LovelyChrys/New_Twilight_Wikia_Background

I modified it to work as a background, but I'd like your input before I just swap out the BG here.
 * http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/xraydeltaone/images/b/b2/Siggy4.png @ (profile)•(talk)•(email) 00:16, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Template
I see! I thought you would like a new splash of templates on the wiki!

03:54, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Tabbers
I generally revert V&W's edits as a matter of course, and this idea of hers smacks of infoboxes all over again, but there may be something to it. What do you think? <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  13:33, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, we'll keep pages as they are, then. And your bluntness, Pam, is much appreciated, at least by me. :) <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  17:39, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

The new theme
So the new background is blue, to go with BD-2. I like it. I'm just afraid to change the rest of the coloring to blues because I feel the need to have the okay from you. What do you say? <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   02:09, April 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * The link isn't working...? <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   15:30, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Themes
I like that you admins are using my idea for a new a background, but what are the colors you guys are planning? And what will become of the templates' color? I can change them if you want. And lastly, who is your favorite Twilight character and your favorite Twilight movies?

21:50, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Affiliate
I am an admin on The Host Wiki and I would like to ask permission off you to put it on their and about the tabbers I was thinking about having them on here, I am sorry about that.

So thanks again,

Video Pages
I would like to suggest that all video pages combined into on, but in a tabber, it would be much more easier then having to go from page to page.


 * I have edited one of the pages and it is Twilight Videos I hope it looks functional.




 * Say, Pam, tabbers may be appropriate also for galleries, something like this. How about them? <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  05:22, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll get down to work, then. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  11:53, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Allowable user name?
Is an user name like this allowable? Thanks! <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  06:14, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Same as you - grey area-ish. I'd imagine it all depends on her (looks like...) edits/comments. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  15:37, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Shelly and Steve Combined page
So I made a blog suggesting that we combine both Shelly and Steve pages together so that we can have a page like this (http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:VampiresAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23/Shelly_and_Steve_Combined_page_suggestion) Please can you consider this and it might be a better solution, becuase it seems silly just to have one page for like one paragraph long bit of information. So can you please think it over.

Vampire age.
Say, Pam, this user has perhaps a point. He (or she, depending) has listed vampire ages as they have reached during the Saga (107 or so for Edward), while we have listed them as it was when they were turned (17/18 or so, still for Edward). How about listing them both? <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  22:48, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * This settles it, then. Thanks. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  07:18, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, it struck me that "Perpetual age" sounds ridiculous, so I took the liberty to change it to "Age when turned". It may also prevent people from adding chronological age to infoboxes. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  09:35, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Filming locations
Page title is "Filming locations" - don't see the need to restate the same thing in the first sentence. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  03:59, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, so it is. Restated the sentence so it is consistent with minor actors and crew members. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  12:19, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Didyme
Well, every other mentioned character has either an "Appearances" section or a "Notes" section redirecting to the Guide. Didyme is the odd element out, without such a section. The search option on Amazon (UK) failed to yield the name in the four books, the only place Didyme's cited in is the guide. Unless someone can come up with something better, I guess it'll have to do.

BTW, I'd rename the "Appearances" section of the "Mentioned characters" category members to something such as "Mentioned in". Your opinion? <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  22:05, June 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Done, thanks. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  06:14, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Character infoboxes
VampireAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23 may have another point. The "Expand" feature she used in her sandbox is not necessarily a bad idea, in a few cases, I think. Do we approve it or downcheck it? Thanks! <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  11:24, June 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  06:56, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn Plot
I have been doing something editing on my sandbox and I would like to shared something I made and it should work out for the better I think, please click here to do so and you might be surprised on what I made. If it wasn't made for the page then I will put in any action in it. So yeah this is is for you and the other admins to talk over.


 * I thought that that was downchecked a while ago. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  10:24, June 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * I will leave it as that, thanks for the confirmation of it will not work for the wiki, I will not do any more actions towards it.



Facebook Group
So on face book there is a group for this wiki, and I have made template for it, what do you think about it?

http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/User:VampireAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23/Sandbox#Facebook


 * I was thinking more of the Main Page it might be convenient for those who can't find it on the page or possibly Wiki Nav.

Adminship request page
At this point, this wiki can be easily managed by two people (Jay and me). Since we do not need any more admins, and VampiresAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23 has applied _again_ for the position, I thought it was worth it to fully protect the Twilight Saga Wiki:Requests for adminship page. I'd even be going as far as deleting the page, but I thought that perhaps you may object to that. <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  10:13, June 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, you're right - it's rollback; I've therefore struck down my comment on the adminship requests. I'm heavily prejudiced against V&W, so my opinion is obvious. I'm not going to stand in the way of a trial period, but I'm practically rollbacking everything she does. The tabbers in the media pages and the hide/expand feature for infoboxes weren't too bad as ideas though... <font face="French Script MT"><font size="6" color="cyan">MinorStoop  12:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

BD Part 1,2 Synopsis
I have made a template of how to have both plots in Breaking Dawn - Part 1 and Breaking Dawn - Part 2 pages, so if you want to have a look at it (BD Parts 1 and 2) If you don't like it then I will accept it, and is it all right if you can have both MinorStoop and Jay to look at it for a further talk about. So yeah all in all I will accept what is given to me.

Images of Charlie Swan category
Hi. I was wondering if we could delete the "Images of Charlies Swan" category. It would make more sense if Charlie appeared in a relationship gallery, such as "Gallery:Charlie Swan and Sue Clearwater", but he doesn't, so I thought that there's no point of it existing. <font face="Bell MT"><font size="5" color="cyan">Trainer <font size="5" color="cyan">-TT 10:38, June 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay. Thanks. <font face="Bell MT"><font size="5" color="cyan">Trainer <font size="5" color="cyan">-TT 11:49, June 27, 2013 (UTC)