Talk:Shape-shifters vs. vampires/@comment-66.138.59.116-20130420211326/@comment-7600752-20150110010738

I think what they meant was that it usually took two shapeshifters to kill a vampires. There always is the exception. But with the Cold Man, he slew a lot of wolves before he was finally killed. As time continued, the wolves got better at killing vampires because they inherited the memories of their 'shapeshifter' ancestors. BUT, a shapeshifter had to survive a vampire encounter in order to live, reproduce, then pass the knowledge down to future generations. Plus, I think it's mentioned somewhere that it usually took two shapeshifters to kill one vampire. I remember reading it somewhere. Plus, Bella actually says in BREAKING DAWN that vampire venom IS poison to (shape shifter) werewolves.