User talk:TagAlongPam/Archive 9

Threats?
Don't you ever delete another one of my pages or anyone elses pages on this wiki or another wiki again! If this happens again your user will be blocked and the web master will be contacted.


 * _This_ is new. What will the world come to, with this kind of gall... :::Shaking head sadly.::: MinorStoop 23:43, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * You've warned this MariaRivera person, which appears on her userpage, but, strangely enough, not in your contribution history. No record of her page appears on the deletion log, either...
 * You'd be right in telling me it's none of my business, but it's the sort of thing I make a point of following - don't want to be caught unawares, should it be needed. MinorStoop 00:43, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

YOU ARE DONE ON THIS WIKI! I am so done with you. You are banned from going on this wiki until 2012 is over. The webmaster is being contacted and I will tell him to block your user from this wiki.

IP 24.23.242.118...
has definitely earned a block for a number of vandalisms on user pages and main pages. What a New Year's night! MinorStoop 04:21, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Cullen
I don't think Cullen's malicious either, just less than bright. Which is certainly no sin, but of no help either. CJ's post has certainly been less than tactful (and probably so were mine), but do you really think that she will be of any help on the wiki? I doubt it - her record certainly does not shine (not here, not on other wikis); I fail to see any way to get anything useful out of her. I'm sorry; MinorStoop 01:39, January 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Let's hope so. A heavily prejudiced MinorStoop 05:04, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Warnings.
Was wondering - should I issue warnings to the perps with the reversion of some vandalism, or is it better for them to be backed by an admin? MinorStoop 19:39, January 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is pretty much a matter of course. Thanks! :) MinorStoop 23:10, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Wide navigation feature
Hey Pam,

I was wondering if you could turn out the wide navigation wiki feature.

I ♥ Coco Chanel, Ariana Grande, Heidi Klum, and MORE!☮☺ 01:23, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Calendar
Hey Pam (and Charmed-Jay),

I just wanted to let you guys know that staff quickly turned on an "entertainment calendar" yesterday that pops up on the right rail. We're just testing a potential feature and wanted to let you know. It'll disappear soon :)

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/sixbitsnonethewiser/images/0/07/Kate_03.png  (talk) 00:57, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Candidates
Usual buildup of candidates for deletion - a "Breaking Dawn Part Two (Movie Quotes)" (created way too early), a "Solomon Finar" (a redirect), "The BElla Cullen Project" (you set it aside before deciding, so it's still there) and a "Top list: Top Twilight Vampires...." (it appears to be a top ten list item, but I actually have not understood what it is).

May I hope to convince you to take care of them? Best,  MinorStoop  08:14, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Jay took care of the Movie quotes page, but there is now a facebook page to be taken care of. I've already suggested the author to make it into a blog.  MinorStoop  11:25, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

The Hunger Games
Hello.

RE: User Alaly321
Taken care of. I'm not sure what I do, but I seem to take on the wrath of most of the users on here when I delete a page of theirs. :P Lucky Timothy 17:51, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably so. Lucky Timothy 04:56, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

A possible overstep.
The opinion of short-TeamTaycob I expressed yesterday on LT's user page is of course personal and my own, by no mean binding; I failed to take into account that this kind of decisions is not mine to take.

Whatever decision you'll take in the future, I still stand by it, and its implied recommendation: TeamTaycob's main page edits seem to me pretty good - always appropriate and to the point, indicating that behind her overnumerous comments she actually pays attention to the wiki, to its content and to its formatting, something very few other people seem to be doing.

My apology for the faux pas,  MinorStoop  12:57, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks.  MinorStoop  07:21, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

User Sasoroe
I haven't understood what this kind of users hope to accomplish (I've met another one couple of Christmases past), but User:Sasoroe will have to be watched somewhat closely. Also warned Tim, truth to tell.  MinorStoop  17:42, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Tim has already taken care of it. :)  MinorStoop  18:14, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Comment on a page
Hi. There is a comment on the page Noel Fisher that I think should be deleted. Thanks. :) Team-Jacob Girl "I'm betting on Alice" 02:06, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
I'm sorry about the threats I made to you. I owe you one. I wish we could be friends.

CullenBaby
May be worth to keep track of this character. :)  MinorStoop  20:46, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thinking on it, this CB may be a false alarm. Wonder why I insist in seeing maliciousness when it's just inexperience.  MinorStoop  21:31, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Nomads
That's why I painstakingly added "Vampire" to each nomad that deserved it. There was another category which underwent the same treatment, but I forget which and can't seem to find it again. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  23:50, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually there was something like this with shapeshifters, all males except Leah Clearwater, female. Remembered it later. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  07:17, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Vanessa Cullen Rodrigues and her 4 IPs
The easiest hypothesis is that it's just one person - there's no reason to think it's more than that. What I'm worried about is the multiple IPs (s)he seems to be hiding behind; (s)he may be switching computers on purpose - as smart a tactic as the motivation is stupid. What do you think, is there anything we can do or should we simply wait it out? Best, <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  14:24, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  07:47, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Commas
Oh, okay, thanks. I've been using the serial comma for years. Sorry for a majority of my recent edits being based solely on comma usage.

<font face="Freebooter"> TeamTaycob  03:24, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

You OK?
Since you seem even less involved than usual, I wonder whether it's alright with you - hope you're just busy outside the wiki.

But, well, since Charmed-Jay entered the vampire/non-vampire nomads/creators/Cullen witnesses fray, some arbitration may be needed if you're willing to give it. Me, I've categorized this way for consistency with the shapeshifters' tree - essentially, they've all got their gender in their own pages. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  17:44, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * That was a bit oversnoopy, I admit - my apologies. However, thanks for the help. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  07:13, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Alaly
Am I at least allowed to thank you for dealing with Alaly's alterations to my talk page? :) <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  08:14, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Archive 7 is repeated.
Just so you know. :) The name at least; dates are OK. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  09:56, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Lexicon's shapeshifters
Pam, we may have to rethink our concept of shapeshifters. I've followed a link to Twilghtlexicon and I found out that they merely divide the tribe in "non-transforming" members and "transforming", beautifully sidestepping the whole question of how to call the unphased shifters between Ephraim Black's pack and the current ones. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  10:22, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Noticed later that even they did not go completely down the road - on the characters' pages they keep saying "become a werewolf" for "phasing". So I'm not supported as well as I had thought and would have liked.
 * Problem is, in my opinion, that shapeshifters are human beings with an extra capability, which is passed from father to son (mostly), and expressed only when there are vampires around. Billy Black, Harry Clearwater, etc. are as much shapeshifters as their forefathers before them and their children after them, but had not had the chance to show it. And the pack members are as human as the generations in between.
 * As a first idea, I'd say "humans" as the highest category, "shapeshifters" just below it, and "phased" (followed by the packs) or "unphased" (followed by the individuals in question) as third-highest. And the appropriate changes in the pages, of course.
 * Of course subject to your criticism, CJ's, LT's and whoever else's. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  20:57, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Quileute" going possibly between "humans" and "shapeshifters". <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  21:05, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Never thought to use diabetes as a touchstone, but I get your point.
 * Both Ephraim and Jacob Black phased; it goes strictly from parent to child; that extra chromosome present in Jacob (and why should the others be without?), Embry's father _having_ to be a Quileute, made me think about phasing in terms of metamorphosis. Billy Black is the greatgrandchild of a shifter, the father of another - he's a shifter; that simple. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  21:58, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * P.S. Three sentences, and it took me half an hour just to get them just right! (:::Frustrated.:::)
 * How the heck did I manage to overhaul this wiki's language?

Yep, I still believe that they should - shapeshifting is a positive attribute; it has clearly _not_ been lost between Ephraim Black's generation and Jacob's. The rule is there (father to son direct heredity, most of the time) and also a potential marker (the extra chromosome). It does not necessarily apply to all Quileutes (just to three families - the Atearas, the Blacks and the Uleys), and if you distinguish between "phased shifter" and "unphased shifter" it may not be confusing at all. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  23:58, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. No, I am not going to start an unagreed-upon wholesale variation to the layout as it is now.


 * Dammit, I tripped on the "baldness" again - completely forgot you already mentioned it. Until I can get a more convincing argument, I'll have to settle for this to be an open topic; hope to manage not to bring it up again until I can really counter your objections. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  07:37, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

News
I think it has been this way for quite a long time, but the News section doesn't work, thus it doesn't work on the front page as well. Long-TT brought this to my attention and I looked at the page, but it's beyond my skills to repair. Oddly enough I figured there would be a ton of code on it's page, but there is hardly any to speak of. Do you think it could be fixed? <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 19:57, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Supreme Leader. <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 20:25, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Huh. Alrighty then, good to know. <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 04:24, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Native American
It's the only category of this kind: I would even part with it.

No car is mentioned as "Modern American", nor Volterra's Palace as "Historical Italian" and such - they'd be absurd. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  12:27, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Minor characters.
You'll have noticed I've altered the tree for "Minor characters". Unfortunately, there is some conflict within the Denali Coven, but I'm forced to stop for other commitments. Plan to deal with it as soon as I'm back. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  15:24, January 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  16:13, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * When you've got an idea on how it should be, let me know. :) I'll be glad to help. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  03:42, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Report
dear tagalongpam,

bellscullen told me to shut the f*** up

help, renesmee321

Dear TagAlongPam ,

she said this in the chat room

from

Transcript


Hey :) I wonder, if you need/want the transcript of Twilight and/or the other films?? i would post it! Neyla98 09:20, January 24, 2012 (UTC)Neyla98

Newsfeed

 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png (profile)•(talk)•(email) 00:32, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Grammys
Hey Pam,

Wikia is rolling out some special events for the Grammys and we wanted to ask Twilight Wiki if they wanted to participate since Bruno Mars is being nominated for an award.

How would you feel about being interviewed regarding the Grammys? It would be a simple set of questions which then we would include in a blog on Music Wiki.

Let us know what you think and we hope you'd like to participate! And we also wanted to put up a badge (temporary) on the mainpage indicating that Metal Wiki is part of the Grammys promotion.

Feel free to discuss with other admins about what you think.

Thanks!

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/sixbitsnonethewiser/images/0/07/Kate_03.png  (talk) 01:34, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Jared and Kim edit
Hi, how are you ?

After seeing the Jared and Kim change I decided to read that part again and Jacob had said

“No drama there. It was just a girl he’d sat next to in school every day for a year and never looked at twice. And then, after he changed, he saw her again and never looked away. Kim was thrilled. She’d had a huge crush on him. She’d had his last name tacked on to the end of hers all over in her diary.” So I just wanted to tell that I am editing that thing again and I hope you won't mind.

Thank you <font face="Brush Script MT"> David Cullen  13:07, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Chat
No, I told her to shut up, she called me a bitch for no reason and that's why I told her to shut up.

<font face="Times New Roman"> ♥Bellscullen♥  18:47, January 25, 2012 (UTC)Bellscullen

Human La Push.
"La Push WA" has every right to be categorized under "Quileute", but I thought that it made more sense to remove it, so to list both "Quileute" and "Makah" under "Humans". <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  20:31, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Same for "Astral Projection". Of course, I'm open to counterarguments. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  20:33, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

"Minor families"
Since the minor members of the main Quileute lineages (Ateara, Black, etc.) have their own page, it would make sense to create one for the secondary lineages, i.e. Littlesea (Kevin, Collin and very likely Julia) and Fuller (Brady). Bit of a dumb, 3+1, I admit, but a Fuller family is unwarranted, methink. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  20:46, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Nitpicky category categorization.
I seem to vaguely remember that among admin privileges there is the one of renaming categories.

If so, I was wondering if you could lowcapitalize a few of them, i.e.:

By Gender

Female Users

Forks High Staff

Forks High Student

Hospital Staff

Imprinted Wolves

Male Users

Sancar's Harem - that is, if in this case Harem is not considered equivalent to Coven.

Shape-Shifters

Team Alec Users

Team Bree Users

Team Denali Users

Team Esme Users

While I'm at it, the following users put themselves in nonexistent categories: User:TeamSwitzerland (Team Shape-Shifters Users), User:Wolvesforever17 (Team wolfpack users, but there is a Team Wolf Pack users), and User:Pucktana88 (Team JLS).

Thanks! <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  21:10, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

A favor?
We (Wikia) were wondering if you could take this survey:


 * 1) ''Why did you decide to have videos on a separate page vs embedded in the relevant articles
 * 2) ''Do you see your wiki as a good place to watch and share videos?
 * 3) ''What's your favorite current place to watch and share videos of Twilight and what do you like about that site?
 * 4) ''Have you ever used the related videos module and what do you like and dislike about it?
 * 5) ''How do you feel about having the module on article pages and it’s positioning on the page?
 * 6) ''How do feel the content quality compares to what you could find on youtube?
 * 7) ''Would you ever consider placing this video within the article content? If not, would you consider it if there were more editorial features?

Also, would you mind if I put these questions into a blog for additional user feedback? We're just trying to get some "real" feedback from admins and users on some of our more popular wikis. :)
 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png (profile)•(talk)•(email) 22:24, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

A screenshot:
I should have added this screenshot for reference, this example was taken from the bottom of the Leah Clearwater page...

Categories and Quileute.
Well, it would have been easier to rename a category, but since even I can modify an user page, I can deal with the whole business. Should take an hour or so, will do it later on when I have an unbroken one to devote to the topic.

About the Quileute non-human pages, this requires some thought - geographical pages are listed as "Real world", objects as "Memorable items" or "Merchandising".

I frankly fail to see astral projection as anything else than a "special ability" - far as I can tell no shapeshifter show any SA (unless you count pack telepathy and Command voice, which you probably should), but some pre-vampiric humans do. I also see Emmett's enhanced strength more akin to wolves' "traits" than vampire "abilities", so perhaps there's more than a little overlap. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  08:38, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Completed category transfer, except Hancar's Harem, which I deemed as just another Coven name. Old categories are marked for deletion, for whichever admin coming first's pleasure.
 * If I didn't think that having a "Quileute People" for human beings and "Quileute" for everything else was too much I'd implement two categories to solve this category's ambivalence. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  11:59, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Archive
Yep, it is, thank you very much. Was trying to obey some uselessly complex old instructions, and you've seen the results.

Thank you also for fielding David Cullen for me.

Ngebendi 22:00, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
ok thanks :)

<font face="Brush Script MT"> David Cullen  06:42, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Mainpage Newsfeed:
Resolved. :)
 * http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/SCOTIMUS76/siggy3.png (profile)•(talk)•(email) 23:28, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Maxroxy
Mr. Maxroxy may require a block for vandalism. <font face="French Script MT"> MinorStoop  13:15, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

RE: E-mail
E-mail sent. <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 17:37, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Concerned User!
Hi I am Edward_Is_Better_23, I am here to report Lollipop King to you as I have read http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Lollipop_king/top_Three_reasons_why_twilight_SUCKS#comm-237399. Because it sounds that he or she should not be here, plus it maybe because he or she is here to troll.

<font face="Luicia Handwriting"> Edward_Is_Better_23

Capitalization
For consistency with Newborn Army Battle and Southern Vampire Wars esentially. I'm low-capitalizing them also; just let me know if I'm doing wrong. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  03:51, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Are the southern "wars" plural or singular? That is, Maria was involved in Benito's event or she just happened to operate indipendently in the same area at a later time?
 * Thank you! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:57, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

What did you decide?
Just curious about what you decided regarding that e-mail you sent me. <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 03:41, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Congrats!
Thank you so much, TagAlongPam. I'm still trying to absorb all these new things, but it's all good. Thank you! :)

<font face="Freebooter"> TeamTaycob  05:36, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Volturi Guard
I was wondering, should it be "Volturi Guard" because it's a sort of standing army/police force, or "Volturi guards" because it's a tag like "Volturi leaders" or "wives"? Best, <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  16:45, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:05, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Wiki activity
Oh, okay. I didn't do any permanent damage, did I?

<font face="Freebooter"> TeamTaycob  01:42, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks also from me - has a vague idea that it may have been a cleaning up of some sorts, but no deeper understanding. :) <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  06:51, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Imprint-whatever
OK, I'm going over the whole imprint-whatever list and remove the detail. If someone wants to have 'em back, (s)he'll have to put it back her/himself. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  22:16, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * While I'm at it, I'm also removing coven mates as family members (Cullens excepted). Strict relationships they may be, but hardly formally familial. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  22:35, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you adobt a grandchild? "Adopted granddaughter" seems absurd to me! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  22:39, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

The familial relationships in infoboxes...
... need to be polished, a longish and boring job.

The low-caseing of the appropriate capitalized words, the removal of coven mates not otherwise family, the translation of spouses into husband/wife, or viceversa (I'll decide later) should be fairly obvious.

However, I wanted your opinion before starting to removed the fairly numerous "unnamed" whatever. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  23:13, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hope I got the Denali Coven familial relationships right, but perhaps a check wouldn't hurt, if you're willing. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  12:32, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Chat ban
I thought about it for a while, and I decided that this MaxroxY user will be banned from chat until his block is over, which will be in a week.

<font face="Freebooter"> TeamTaycob  03:25, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Category
Hello I dont know how some people tag pages for deletion, it would be really kind of you if you did tell me. And please delete http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Forks_High_staff as I have made a new category page, http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Forks_High_School_staff to replace it. Thought High school sounded better and made more sense.

<font face="Brush Script MT"> David Cullen  12:55, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Video module update
Hi there,

As you might have heard, we have been testing out a new related videos module here and I wanted to let you know we are ready to try out a new location for the module. We will be moving it to the right rail, below the recent activity box. We hope this will be a better location, and provide people with easier access to these videos. We will be activating this on Thursday February 9, so please let me know if you have any questions. I also left a message for LuckyTimothy, Charmed-Jay, TeamTaycobSoDealWithIt & Kmanwing. In the future if there is a better place to contact all the admins at once, please let me know where that is. --Sarah (help forum | blog) 17:55, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Actors' age and subst template.
The addition of the age to the actors' infoboxes may be in principle a good idea, but, unless it's computed automatically, will have to be painstakingly maintained every year. Do you know if it's at all possible to code write a piece of code that yields the difference (in years) between today's date and the birthdate of the actor? I'd rather do this than just plainly revert David Cullen's work. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  06:57, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, that you know of, how does one proceed to add a new template in the editor list? My exchange with BellaRenesmeeEdward made it fairly clear that the "Vandal" template is sometimes too strongly worded, and thought that perhaps an "Inappropriate" one may have its uses. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:13, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll have also to ask you if you could teach me how to properly code a "subst" template. Unless you think I should ask LT or staff. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:34, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the date/age template info. For the moment, I've decided against the "Inappropriate" template - an explanation of why something is unsuited fits better the bill. Many thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  16:21, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Can I have ROLL-BACK rights?
Hello my name is Jess and I would like to know If I am able to get roll-back rights. i know that I have only been on here for like 5-6 weeks.

Thanks

<font face="French Script MT"> Edward_Is_Better_23

The Twilight Saga Wiki Rules!!!!!!!

Page for deletion
This page is up for deletion. I was one click away from doing so, but I noticed it seemed to be an extension of the front page with just ":Users" added to it. I'd rather not delete the entire wiki if possible, lol. I'm sure nothing will happen if I did delete it but I thought I'd err on the side of caution and ask you. <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 20:30, February 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Roger. <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 21:08, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Maxroxy and publicity.
Sorry to bother you - I think that Mr Maxroxy is ready for another block, perhaps for a bit longer than 2 weeks.

Furthermore, IP 112.201.149.139 left multiple instances of the same publicity comment on the Vampire, Breaking Dawn and Twilight pages. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:51, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Austin Belt, this time
Mr. Austin Belt has, in my opinion, earned a block - I recommend something in the 1-to-3 months range. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  20:29, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind, been taken care of. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:23, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Commenr on Jacob's page.
Hi, I was browsing through the recent wiki activity and seen a comment on Jacob's page "ha i sucked his d**k yesterday". <font face="Jenna Sue"> Bellscullen  05:00, February 13, 2012 (UTC)Bellscullen

Relationships.
Was thinking to merge the "husbands" and "wives" into "spouses", "fathers" and "mothers" into "parents", and same for the "grand-"generation, shifting the gender category down a notch. Could also explode "siblings" into "brothers" and "sisters", but it's harder, if not impossible, to explode "mates" into two equivalent gendered categories. "Feller" and "Judy", perhaps, but they're British (Londoner, I think) usage and I happen to know them by a circuitous route that not everybody has taken. Of course, it's not possible to ungender "Objects of imprinting" and "Imprinted wolves", but that can't be helped.

Since it's a bit of a biggie, wanted to hear another opinion, before doing it.

<font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  15:13, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. Am not sure about "imprinting-based relationship", but it's not cast in stone. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:19, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does not seem that much better to me; I am looking for a single word encompassing both - "Mates", "Spouses" and such. Perhaps there's none - imprinting is not part of the human beings evolutionary legacy. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  05:56, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

MaxroxY556677
His block has expired, and, since Short-TT is likely busy off-wiki to lift his ban from chat, I'll remind you of it. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:19, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind - I've contacted TT about it. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  15:56, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Comment
Hi. There is a comment on the page for Jessica Stanley that has some language and may need to be deleted. <font face="Vivaldi" size="4" color="00B8F5" >Team-Jacob Girl <font face="Arial" size="2" color="F500B8">"I'm betting on Alice" 00:56, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Comment in volturi page
Hi, can you please delete this comment http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi#comm-244966 or edit it and make it f**k or something like that. Thanks <font face="Brush Script MT"> David Cullen  06:19, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Question
Feel free to step in whenever you think it's needed - my social skills are not necessarily the best ones in the world. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:36, February 16, 2012 (UTC) P.S. "Unpublished" is obvious, tho'!

Referencing non-official sites
How do you recognize non official sites? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:07, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

At the top of the category tree.
Mistook it for "Twilight characters". <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  18:51, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Photopop Character Category
Pam,

just so you know, I've contacted staff about it, and they've confirmed the obsolescence of the category, authorizing its removal.

<font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  04:24, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your unusual frivolity makes me guess you didn't like the category either. Welcome to the club! :) <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  06:39, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Some deletion.
Perhaps I should leave this to Short-TT to do, for her to master the mass deletion of comments, but I'm bothering you instead. :)

Special:Contributions/208.103.243.177 has left a few fairly disparaging comments on Emmett Cullen's page which should go, I think. There are also a few on Jaccara's talk page, which may just be plainly dumb.

I wouldn't know if by the time you read this the page Hannah montana is already deleted. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop ►

Could you please ask Charmed jay for me since he has locked his talk page why he keeps reverting my edits <span style="background-color:#000; background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #444 35%, #000 65%); background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(35%, #444), color-stop(65%, #000)); border:1px solid #eb0; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; border-top-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; border-right:0;"><span style="border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:1ex;">  Wyatt  <span style="background-color:Purple; background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #FFF 35%, #000 65%); background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(35%, #000), color-stop(65%, #000)); color:#fff; border:1px solid #eb0; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex;"> Speak  <span style="background-color:#000; background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #444 35%, #000 65%); background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(35%, #444), color-stop(65%, #000)); color:#fff">  Contribs  <span style="background-color:#000; background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #444 35%, #000 65%); background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(35%, #444), color-stop(65%, #000)); color:#ff0000; border:1px solid #eb0;">  VD   <span style="border:1px solid #eb0; border-left:0; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; background-color:#FF0000; background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #FF0000 35%, #000 65%); background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(35%, #444), color-stop(65%, #000)); color:#eb0"> 20:05, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

New Moon graphic novel
According to Team Jacob Girl, the graphic novel of New Moon is going to be split in a number of issues. As proof she provides Twilightish.com and Amazon.com - I'm not sure how trustworthy the first is, and can't very well use the second in the external link.

What do we do? Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:31, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. This takes care of the external link, I believe. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:46, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Covens
No doubt you have noticed they underwent the same (long overdue) categorization shift for nomads and shapeshifters - Renesmee is a hybrid.

Can't think of any other situation that may warrant the job.

<font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  14:46, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

I know
so i know that the achivements arnt in use the old ones but could i just download and upload them when i've done them? <span style="padding-left:2px; color:white; background:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #8d09a1 70%, #b112c9 30%); background:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(70%, #8d09a1), color-stop(30%, #b112c9)); border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:3ex;"> Wyatt  <span style="padding-right:2px; color:purple; background:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #ffe9ff 70%, #ffffff 30%); background:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(70%, #ffe9ff), color-stop(30%, #ffffff));"> Visit     <span style="padding-right:2px; color:white; background:-moz-linear-gradient(top, #8d09a1 70%, #b112c9 30%); background:-webkit-gradient(linear, 0% 0%, 0% 100%, color-stop(70%, #8d09a1), color-stop(30%, #b112c9)); border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:3ex;"> 18:10,3/2/2012

Known humans page, and species-specific insults.
For consistency, we should create a page for "Known humans", but, since I fail to see a real reason for the "Known beings" kind of pages, I'm not exactly keen to do it. I'll want an outside opinion, if you're willing to give it.

As for the "Whatever species insults" pages, are they really needful? I know they've got a long history, but they seem to me more morbid than useful.

<font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:20, March 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done, I've taken my life in my hands and marked the pages for deletion - both insult and people list. The first available admin can delete 'em.
 * Thanks!
 * <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  04:02, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

60.229.10.131(Needs to be delt with)
This person has been using disgusting words.

<font face="Old English Text MT"> Edward_Is_Better_23

Re: Books/published
It was either that, or separate the "Books" and "Graphic novels" categories - which would probably be a better idea. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:13, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Unless, of course, we want to completely rethink this particular tree and have "Published books", "Unpublished books", "Published graphic novels" and "Unpublished graphic novels."
 * Separating "Published" and "Unpublished" in the first tier, jumbling "Books" and "Graphic novels" together in the second is absurd, in my opinion. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:25, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Meh, let's try this. Wouldn't know if it's satisfactory; let me know. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  15:09, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Meaning I've fallen for a false problem? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  20:25, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Forgotten your "less is more" axiom, actually. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  20:54, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * See your point, but I like it better this way. :) <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  17:26, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably we'd be better off by dispensing with the published/unpublished dichotomy. I find it's flimsier than the book/graphic novel one. While I was at it, I rearranged some "Merchandise" items, some fit better with books only; DVDs, well, they'd probably would fit under "movies". Kept as merchandise only toys and journals essentially. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:35, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Candidates
The above disagreement notwithstanding, I'll ask you if you could delete the four or five items in the Candidates for deletion list. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  20:22, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Vacation
Have fun. I will keep the kids in line... and prevent any coup d'etat to overthrow you from power while you are away. ;) <font face="AR DESTINE"><font size="5" color="#66011">Lucky <font size="5" color="#99022">Timothy 21:39, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah - I was thinking about a week-long Woodstock-style event, while you're away... <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:41, March 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Have fun! I don't think things in the chat will get out of line, but I'll be there (along with patrolling other parts of the Wiki) just in case. And I do promise that if we have a few parties, we'll take pictures. ;) <font face="Gabriola"> TeamTaycob  21:46, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Warning template
How do you do the warning template when you edit a talk page and the image thing when youre t Special:Upload ? <font face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="background:#3399FF; border:1px dotted #00CCCC; padding:1px 3px 1px 3px; margin-left:0px; font-size:75%;"><font color=#FF0000 title="My Profile">CharmeRuler • <font color=#FF0000 title="My talk page">Talk  • <font color=#FF0000 title="My Contributions">Contrib

Its okay i figured out how do um

Categorization policy.
You know,

in my opinion, the serial categorization seems a bit awkward - we have five books, and their title make the first basic categories. Fine thus far, but then we have four "Title-here movie" categories, four "Title-here crew" categories, four "... cast" and "... images", categorized under the book titles, and five "... characters" categories, which aren't.

"Twilight" -> "Twilight movie" -> "Twilight film cast", "... crew", "... images"

and

"Twilight Saga characters" -> "Twilight characters", etc.

I was thinking that perhaps we should keep the five title categories as they are, but discorporate everything else from then; so to have both Bella Swan and Kristen Stewart categorized as whatever title they appear in, then Bella as character and Kristen Stewart as actress. I fail to see the usefulness of having "Twilight" repeated four or five times.

Since it's a biggie, and I am not completely clear with the idea myself, I wanted an external opinion before starting.

<font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:23, March 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Something along the lines of Elizabeth Reaser, March 19, 8:33am version, and Esme Cullen, March 19, 8:31am version - if needed, rollback will be done in a jiffy. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:39, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * OK. It was just an idea.
 * Had fun on vacation? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  12:13, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am not that sure that the book/movie split is so important - no book, no movie. But then, there's a lot of continuity between the four books/movies, so much that having four categories for "cast" and four for "crew" seems to me overdoing it.
 * Perhaps we may find a common ground - I'd kill the "* cast" and "* crew" categories, keeping two general "actor/cast" and "crew" categories and reporting every relevant page under the appropriate "* film" category. Same may apply to the "film images" categories.
 * On the book side, I'd kill the "whatever-book-title characters" categories, since the book category itself and the "major/minor/mentioned/deceased characters" should be plenty.
 * What do we do with the "images of character/actor" categories?
 * <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:45, March 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done - cast, crew, composers and directors. Do we keep composers and directors separate from crew?
 * For the moment, I've kept the "* film" categories on pages; we may remove 'em later on, less work this way than reinstating if we decide we want them back.
 * <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:10, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Adminship
LT suggested that I message you about this (I already left a post on the adminship requests page), but I'm fully aware that this is my second request. I want to help this Wiki, and I feel that if I'm an admin, I'll be able to do so a lot more. I'm very dedicated; I log on to the Wiki every day (when I have the time, that is), I fight vandalism/spam and I respect the users here, and I've been a user here for 6 months. I also make good, reasonable edits around here and I don't have a history of being blocked. As I said on my first request, I have experience with adminship. Thank you! --<font face="Vivaldi"> Love and Lust  20:25, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * So we can lay this thread to rest, I just wanted to add that David Cullen is perhaps a better candidate for adminship - no unrelated comments, at least. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:44, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Comments.
Come to think about it, the most recent (at the time of this writing) comment on Stephenie Meyer is deletable - the one I've replied to. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:25, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Gendered actors
Do we categorize actors by gender? If it wasn't done by now, it does not seem to be needed, but this Carlos Los Davis may have a point. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  10:56, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  17:38, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * As a corollary, the gendered division of characters is less than useful. I'm removing it. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:04, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Fred
Oh, I found a site for the Official Newborn pics.

16:38, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Acrimonous blog
Pam, if LT has not already dealt with it first, the blog Admins! and Hunger Games should be deleted - its comments have definitely become vitriolic.

Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  13:59, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

User Flowerlove
Do you have any idea of who or what this user Flowerlove may be? The only thing (s)he ever does is to delete videos, so (s)he must have some kind of privileges, even if she's got no "admin" or "staff" tag. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  19:12, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like you're right. Wish I understand what (s)he's doing, though. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  11:48, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Pam, it's about a month that this Flowerlove user keeps deleting the Sneak Peak Wedding Event from the related videos - about 90 different pages, but always that video, with no explanation; as if (s)he hates that video. It certainly gives me the creeps.
 * What do we do? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  18:43, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep. This past month, I did twice, TeamTaycob once. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  04:38, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  19:02, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Commend editor - black on black.
Say, Pam, I've contacted staff because the new comment editor is set for black text on black background - they've redirected to local admins. Can I bother you with it, unless the "wikia.css" mentioned in your history is something every user has to alter for her/himself? Thanks, <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  19:31, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Absolutely short on details - as if they couldn't be bothered.
 * Well, I'll see what I can do with my ".css" page later on. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  05:04, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Admin request
'''would it be alright for me to be a admin? i was just wondering....please write back on my page'''

 teamtwigirl   14:50, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Two blocks
For User:Flowerlove makes four strikes - hope you don't mind to proceed with the block.

I think that User:CaiusV2056 has also earned a block; multiple instances of vandalism on Caius' and relational empathy's pages. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  17:47, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Tracking senses.
Do Demetri's sensory location and Alistair's sensory attraction really warrant a different name from James' tracking sense? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  19:19, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * At worst, we'll revert everything. I only know the ugliness of the "sensory whatever" naming. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  20:06, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

hey!
do u wanna play a twilight chlaracter on the twilight role playing wiki?

http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Hello55522/TWILIGHT_ROLE_PLAY_WIKI_AUDITIONS

that is the link for my blog about the wiki

if u wanna be a character message me AFTER u have read the blog

plz reply

bye

<font face="Cambria"> Hello55522 15:07, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Tracking sense
Finally managed to merge the three tracking sense articles into one called "Tracking". If another admin hasn't beaten you to it, please remember to rename "Tracking" to "Tracking sense" on deletion of the old ones. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  10:37, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Roar :D!
Hey! Last night, I was struck with an idea! They come rarely, so I'm happy :D! Anyway, there is a lot of "projects" going on over the wiki that many people don't know about. How about we create a "To-Do" Page where projects are posted to keep people up to date and allow new people to get straight to work. I thought it sounded like a good idea xD! Get back to me and tell me what you think!! - The Lunar  Eclipse
 * Any and all projects. All I know is that I log on daily to see how things are, see an edit I don't like, delete it, and then get pointed up about how I "don't edit much and therefore cannot know what is going on". I don't know, I'm just fed up of it and I think that we should keep a list of what members are trying to accomplish what. It's really confusing and I'm still trying to put the idea together and find a way to make it shine... - The Lunar  Eclipse

Eclipse movie review page
It's with some amusement that I noticed that this page is fully protected against editing and that no review is there. It does not seem that there has been any vandalism, though, so it may have been just a playground for an admin or above's experiments.

However, I wonder - Twilight and New Moon reviews are full, OK, but Eclipse and the two Breaking Dawn are likely to stay empty, with blogs and comments and all that. What is your idea for them? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  07:42, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't think to check for comments - and it settles the issue. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  21:03, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Broken redirects.
Pam,

There's a bunch of broken redirects (none of those you like keeping and on which we've got different opinions) that I'd like to delete. Unless you want to delete them yourself, I was thinking to have admin rights for half a day so to delete them myself. Don't know what you think of it, and it's going to be temporary anyway. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  08:40, April 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Job's done, I've also taken the liberty to unban from chat a few people who have been banned for at least ten days, most of them more than a month. Unlikely repeat offenders, in my opinion.
 * Have also "unadministered" myself, so things are back to normal. :)
 * Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop

User Flowerlove
Some people are incredible - here (s)he goes again. No explanation, no apologies; she just started deleting yet another video. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  00:22, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Porn links.
Depending on who gets about this, first - among other IPs, Special:Contributions/213.159.240.240 has been leaving on other IPs some comments linking to porn sites. Spambot? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  07:00, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Stubs
Pam, you'll have noticed I've unstubbed a number of articles - some seemed too long, and others, particularly minor characters and minor locations, seemed self-contained - not enough info available to improve them. Thought you may want to know. <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  12:35, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Twilight chosen for chat updates also
Hey there, Twilight was also chosen for the chat updates (which I contact you on the hunger games wiki about). Let me know if its alright to test here also. Thanks! Sarah (help forum | blog) 21:20, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Now Live! The updates are live here. You will need to leave the old chat, refresh the page and then you can join the new chat. Please let me know of any issues. --Sarah (help forum | blog) 20:25, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi All, I take it back - no longer live. We ran into some stability issues and so are flipping it off until we fix it. Thanks! --Sarah (help forum | blog) 21:19, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Comment
There's a comment in the News page that warrants a deletion. Thanks! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  15:55, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Broken redirects again.
For what's worth, I'd like permission to visit town again. Thank you! <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  14:00, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Back to country again - thanks! 02:27, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

User:Flowerlove...
... seems back to her/his tricks. Another block? <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  18:08, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Commenting
I know this is a big step, but I am going to disable commenting on this Wiki for a week, just to see how the users like it. We could all use a week of peace and quiet, too. Best, <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   00:26, June 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I like it. I can finally hear myself think again! <font face="Gabriola"> Team <font face="Gabriola"> Taycob   03:38, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Vacation
Thought to let you know I'm going to leave for a bit of vacation next Thursday, until the end of the month. Considering I'm three or four days short of it, I'll probably hunt for the 200-days-on-the-wiki badge anyway, but other than that, I'll give the community a bit of rest from my abrasive personality - hope there won't be too much reversing to do afterwards! :) <font face="Vivaldi"> MinorStoop  12:08, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Question for You about Renesmee
Hey, My name is Jessie and I am a huge fan of Twilight, obviously, and I have a question about the fourth book and upcoming movie. I do not remember Renesmee getting as big as she is in the upcoming movie. Do you think that could affect the movie negatively. I mean, she grew up way fast but just not that fast. I absolutely love the movies and I do not think I will be disappointed, but why do you think they did that?

Chat
please help these people just verbally assulted the twilight wiki chat

dead space really rocks, luka megurine knife, king4D the time of incedent was between  5:47pm to 5:51pm  on 6/20/2012

174.28.81.73's editing
Hi, Pam It is Jess, I would like to imform you thank this user has been putting rude and horrible things on here.

TWILIGHT IS GAY is the page that needs to be seen to.

<font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> <font color=Purple title="My User Page">My Coffin • <font color=Pink title="My talk page">Message Me, I won't bite • <font color=crimson title="My Contributions">My Blood Bank

Oh. my apoligizes. I hope we can be friends. :]

<p style="text-align:center;">Always and Forever,

<p style="text-align:center;">JuliaPierce