Talk:Shape-shifters vs. vampires/@comment-69.117.86.234-20141208012703

People are saying it takes two shape shifters to kill a vampire when Seth killed a newborn on his own and a new born is the strongest vampire as Carlisle said and Seth is pretty small and unexpierenced and the whole time Seth was just acting weak as Edward said so therefore vampires are not way stronger and on another website it states that shape shifters strength are nearly equilvilent of a vampire so you don't need two because in the war it was every wer wolf for themself