User blog:VampiresAndWerewolfsareAwesomeAsHell23/Testimony Of Joesph Bruce Ismay (Part Five)

completion of the ship, or whether the lifeboats, or any of them, were borrowed from the other ships of the White Star Line?

Mr. ISMAY.  They certainly would not be borrowed from any other ship.

Senator SMITH.  Do you recollect whether the |lifeboat  in which you left the ship was marked with the name Titanic  on the boat or on the oars?

Mr. ISMAY.  I have no idea. I presume oars would be marked. I do not know whether the boat was marked or not. She was a |collapsible boat .

Senator SMITH.  Can you recollect whether that was so?

Mr. ISMAY.  I did not look to see whether the oars were marked. It would be a natural precaution to take?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Mr. Ismay, do you know about the boiler construction of the Titanic <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir; I do not. May I suggest, gentlemen, if you wish any information in regard to the construction of the ship, in any manner, shape, or form, that I shall be only too pleased to arrange for one of the Harland & Wolff's people to come here and give you all the information you require; the plans and everything.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> We are much obliged to you. There has been some suggestion by passengers who left the ship in lifeboats, that an explosion took place after this collision. Have you any knowledge on that point?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Absolutely none.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Do you think you would have known about that if it had occurred?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes; I should. Do you mean to say before the ship went down?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Absolutely.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Mr. Ismay, do you know anything about the action of the amidship |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">turbine <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">; the number of revolutions?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. UHLER. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">reciprocating engines <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">, you say, were going at 75 or 72 revolutions at one time?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. UHLER. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Have you any knowledge as to how many revolutions the amidship turbine was making?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir. Those are all technical questions which can be answered by others, if you desire.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What speed would 75 revolutions indicate?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I should think about 21 knots.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What is that in miles?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> It is in the ratio of 11 to 13; about 26 miles, I think.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Mr. Ismay, did you have anything to do with the selection of the men who accompanied you in the last boat?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How were they designated?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I presume by the officer who was in charge of the boat.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Who was that?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Mr. Wilde. [ <span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Henry T. Wilde<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">]

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And he was what officer?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Chief officer.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Was that done by lot or by selection?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I think these men were allotted certain posts.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Indiscriminately?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No; I fancy at the time they had what they called, I think, the boat's crew list. That is all arranged beforehand.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Can you describe those rafts?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> There were none on board the ship.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did you see any rafts actually in service?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Is it customary for the White Star Line to carry rafts?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I believe in the olden days we carried rafts.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Recently that has not been done?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Not in the recent ships; no, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Why?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I presume because they are not considered suitable.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Do you know what water capacity there was on that ship?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I do not, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I mean, when she was stove in, how many compartments could be flooded with safety?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I beg your pardon, sir. I misunderstood your question. The ship was especially constructed to float, with two compartments full of water.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> She was constructed to float with two compartments full of water?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The ship was specially constructed so that she would float with any two compartments full of water. I think I am right in saying that there are very few ships - perhaps I had better not say that, but I will continue, now that I have begun it - I believe there are very few ships today of which the same can be said.

<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">When we built the Titanic <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> we had that especially in mind. If this ship had hit the iceberg stem on, in all human probability she would have been here today.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> If she had hit the iceberg head on; in all probability she would be here now?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I say in all human probability that ship would have been afloat today.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How did the ship strike the iceberg?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> From information I have received, I think she struck the iceberg a glancing blow between the end of the |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">forecastle <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> and the |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">captain's bridge <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">, just aft of the |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">foremast <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I understood you to say a little while ago that you were rowing, with your back to the ship. If you were rowing and going away from the ship, you would naturally be facing the ship, would you not?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No; in these boats some row facing the bow of the boat and some facing the stern. I was seated with my back to the man who was steering, so that I was facing away from the ship.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> You have stated that the ship was specially constructed so that she could float with two compartments filled with water?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Is it your idea, then, that there were no two compartments left entire?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> That I can not answer, sir. I am convinced that more than two compartments were filled. As I tried to explain to you last night, I think the ship's bilge was ripped open.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The ship had 16 compartments?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I could not answer that, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Approximately?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Approximately. That information is absolutely at your disposal. Our shipbuilders will give it to you accurately.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> She was so built that if any two of these compartments should be filled with water she would still float?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes, sir; if any two of the largest compartments were filled with water she would still float.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Mr. Ismay, what time did you dine on Sunday evening?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> At 7:30.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> With whom?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> With the doctor. [ [http://www.titanicinquiry.org/outsidelinks.php#o <span style="font-size: 9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Dr. William O'LOughlin ]<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">]

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did the <span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">captain<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> dine with you?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> He did not, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> When you went to the |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">bridge <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> after this collision, was there any ice on the decks?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I saw no ice at all, and no icebergs at all until daylight Monday morning.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Do you know whether any people were injured or killed from ice that came to the decks?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I do not, sir. I heard ice had been found on the decks, but it is only hearsay.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I think I asked you, but in case it appears that I have not, I will ask you again: Were all of the women and children saved?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I am afraid not, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What proportion were saved?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I have no idea. I have not asked. Since the accident I have made very few inquiries of any sort.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did any of the |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">collapsible boats <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> sink, to your knowledge, after leaving the ship?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator NEWLANDS. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What was the full equipment of |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">lifeboats <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> for a ship of this size?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I could not tell you that, sir. That is covered by the Board of Trade regulations. She may have exceeded the Board of Trade regulations, for all I know. I could not answer that question. Anyhow, she had sufficient boats to obtain her <span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">passenger certificate<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">, and therefore she must have been fully boated, according to the requirements of the English Board of Trade, which I understand are accepted by this country. Is not that so, General?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. UHLER. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Mr. Ismay, did you in any manner attempt to influence or interfere with the wireless communication between the Carpathia<span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif""> and other stations?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> No, sir. I think the <span style="font-size: 9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">captain<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> of the Carpathia <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> is here, and he will probably tell you that I was never out of my room from the time I got on board the Carpathia <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> until the ship docked here last night. I never moved out of the room.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How were you dressed? Were you completely dressed when you went into the |<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">lifeboat <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I had a suit of pajamas on, a pair of slippers, a suit of clothes, and an overcoat.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How many men, officers and crew, were there on this boat?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> There were no officers.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I mean the officers of the ship.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> How many officers were there on the ship?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Yes, and how many in the crew?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I think there were seven officers on the ship.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And how many in the crew?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I do not know the full number of the crew. There were seven officers - or nine officers; there are always three officers on watch.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And how many men were in the lifeboat with you?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Oh, I could not tell. I suppose nine or ten.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Do you know who they were?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I do not. [http://www.titanicinquiry.org/outsidelinks.php#c <span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. Carter ]<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">, a passenger, was one. I do not know who the others were; third class passengers, I think. In fact, all the people on the boat, as far as I could see, were third class passengers.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Did they all survive, and were they all taken aboard the Carpathia <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> They all survived, yes.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> You have indicated your willingness to supply the committee with any data or information that may be necessary regarding the construction and equipment of this vessel?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Any information or any data the committee may wish is absolutely at their disposal.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And you have indicated your willingness to meet our full committee?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> At any time you wish, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> And I suppose this includes the surviving officers?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> Certainly, sir. Anybody that you wish is absolutely at your disposal.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> What are your own immediate plans?

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I understand that depends on you.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I thank you, in behalf of my associates and myself, for responding so readily this morning, and for your statements; and I am going to ask you to hold yourself subject to our wishes during the balance of the day.

<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">For the convenience of the captain of the Carpathia <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I am going to call him at this time.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mr. ISMAY. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> I am entirely at your disposal at any time, sir.

<span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Senator SMITH. <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> The committee has decided to call the captain of the Carpathia <span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> as the next witness.

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